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So how strong you guy's think piccolo and mys gohan is?; ?
Topic Started: Apr 30 2017, 04:28 AM (2,700 Views)
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Apr 30 2017, 05:40 PM
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Apr 30 2017, 04:52 AM
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Apr 30 2017, 04:49 AM
If that were the case then Piccolo would have had zero issues taking down Tagoma. He didn't improve that much until after Resurrection 'F'.
You do realize piccolo still had his weight clothes on against Tagoma? And tagoma could have been at Ssj 3 level or super buu level for all we know.
Piccolo taking off his weights doesn't really increase his power as much as it used to. I guarantee taking it off would have done him no good against Tagoma. Gohan took him down easily as a Super Saiyan.
Actually it does just not as much as a Ssj. As he get stronger he increases his weight clothes which increases his strength a bit and his speed dramatically.
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May 8 2017, 05:01 AM
Goku was bored. Bored as f*** because Vegeta wouldn't play with him anymore and Whis/Beerus were at a conference. He was trying to have fun. He isn't tyrying to do anything but have fun and make Gohan/Krillin feel etter while doing so. He calls Gohan Saiyaman and is playing along similar to Satan play fighting with Gohan in Super
No, Goku was bored cause training alone was bland and Whis, Vegeta and Piccolo were either occupied/unavailable. Why would he want to have fun by going to Whis for more training? That makes no sense with for his character. Goku was going to go train with Whis initially, you're telling me Goku was going to go to Whis to "have fun"? Yeah he did say call Gohan Saiyaman, but he stated he won't hold back and Gohan matches him. If Goku didn't hold back in actuality Gohan should've been fodder but he wasn't. The situation with Gohan and Satan is vastly different, for one there's not a single scene stating Saiyaman was fighting seriously and two, it's clearly shown they're play fighting to appease Pan. Totally different with Goku and Gohan's fight.
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It's obvious Ultimate Gohan was out of Piccolo's league. He was handling all of Piccolo's clones simultaneously, and then chopped Piccolo's arm off with ease. He lost because he let his guard down.

SSJ2 Gohan and Piccolo was much closer, but I would still give the edge to Gohan. He beat Piccolo in close quarters, and it's implied by Piccolo's dialogue that Gohan lost because he still wasn't taking the fight as seriously as he should have been, and he had his guard down.

Piccolo =< SSJ2 Gohan <<< Ultimate Gohan

I'm OK with that. It doesn't really give an indication of where Gohan is without his Ultimate power, though.
What that supposed to mean? Frost did the same thing then got his punches blocked with one hand. Piccolo let frost shoot him in the leg just like he let gohan chop his arm. So he can catch gohan off gaurd to end him quickly. Really all Ssj 2 gohan did was kick piccolo away which did nothing. Piccolo choked him out with ease if gohan was stronger he would had simply over power that. I have piccolo =< mys gohan for sure.
I already explained why I consider Piccolo only on par with SSJ2 Gohan in the post you quoted. You can have Piccolo stronger than Beerus for all I care, but he wasn't that impressive to me.
Ssj 2 gohan wasn't that impressive he got choked out by piccolo within seconds. Piccolo>Ssj 2 gohan for sure. Unit I can see gohan down piccolo.
He got choked out because his head wasn't in the game and he was off-guard. That was the entire point of the fight. In on-guard moments, SSJ2 Gohan did better than Piccolo.
Nah just because he got choke out don't mean he was off guard. He just had to take that L. Even if he was off guard why couldn't he just over power piccolo and break the stranglehold? The only time he actually let his guard down is when piccolo let him cut his arm off.
Piccolo literally told him he doesn't have his guard up during vital moments and to get his head in the game. I don't know how else to put this. Gohan wasn't 100% on his game, and he got choked out because of it. Him being somewhat stronger doesn't mean this is impossible.
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Apr 30 2017, 10:10 PM
I personally have Piccolo over the SSJ2 threshold. I think what pissed him off is Gohans head in a***. See that s*** eating grin as a SSJ2 when looking at Piccolo. It's cell big head arrogance again and then it trumps up again in Mystic.

I prersonally remember Gohan being stronger in ROF and came up with this

Gohans Base (ssj Gohan at the Cell Games)
Ssj Gohan (Gohans SSJ2 power)
SSJ2 Gohan (Mystic)
Ultimate Gohan (stronger than ever before)

There is no logic to Gohan being stronger than Piccolo in base if his base isn't around Cell Games ssj level. Piccolo was below Trunks and Vegeta then, which is below Goku, which is till far from Gohan.

Piccolo is stronger than ever. I personally have him weighted at Gotenks or Super Buu level, unweighted as pushing Gohans peak power from then. Gohan is and will just be stronger as he's been training his body for a while now but hadn't learned his lessons yet. Hell he told Goku he would show him how strong he had got again before the exhibition match. I think he caught up to where he was and Piccolo pushed him past it

I just want Gohan to end up between Goku post ssj God wearing offf vs Beerus and enraged Vegeta at Bulma being slapped. That's enough for me
Gohan did no training since the Buu saga so at his best he would still be a little under Mystic Gohan (Buu saga)


Mystic Gohan (Buu Saga) > Mystic Gohan (Present)

But I do believe Piccolo should be ssj2 tier by now
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